Friday, November 13, 2009

The American sit-com: gender roles

Blog your thoughts in response to the episodes we viewed in class and gender roles, relationships... you may address some of the discussion questions provided in class.

23 comments:

  1. T.V. sit-coms portray the "average" marriage. It over exsadurates what the average couple does and how they act. I don't think its right, but its funny and most of them are still on the air so they can keep doin it until reruns are all thats left.

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  2. these sit coms protray men to lie constently and it showed how men back eachother up. it shows women to believe the men and trust them when really they shouldnt be trusted.the shows show men and women to comunicate by fighting a lot but it shows how they are really there for eachother in the end.

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  4. i think the hostility between partners is kinda funny because its an exaggeration of what really happens. i dont really think men and women are really that different than what the sitcoms portray, there might be a slight difference but nothing too significant. i definately believe that different types of women are treated differently. men judge them when they see them and decide how to treat them by how they think the woman is/acts. i have down that from the shows we've seen that men are portrayed as: obsessed with sex, creative with the excuses they make up, they put the issues off on the wife, and that they're lying and deceptive to get their way. i got that women are obsessed with relationships, close minded, and forgiving to the husbands

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  5. Marriage is not portrayed as a sentimental institution in those television comedies. They are seen as just two people together, not bound by love so much as by being attached to each other because of redundancy. It seems that required actions are still there, like being close, sleeping in the same bed, and living together, but they seem to almost live distant lives. In "Everybody Loves Raymond," Raymond does not seem as interested in his wife as he does other attractive women. He hides this from his wife, and this shows deception in relationships. It does not show how in a marriage, the two people are so commited that no one else in the world matters. I believe that it is shining humor into the dysfunctionalities in a human relationship, even showing wear on love between two people. In "The King of Queens," the lie wasn't about women, but about a man who lies to a woman so she will sleep with him. This shows that men think with their sex drives, not so much their brain or their hearts. I think that I can see this happening out in the real world, and the TV shows make a mockery of it. This might give men either the drive to NOT do those things because they are the object of comedy within the TV shows, or they might go out and do the same things as those men did because since others have done it, it is acceptable.

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  6. The hostility between partneres is funny to me. The men typically lie to the women do decieve and get their way, then the women just kind of sit back and laugh it off instead of doing anything about it. In Every Body Loves Raymond Ray is easily frightened by his wife. His Dad on the other hand is complete opposite and disrepects his wife and does not really care what she has to say, but does it all in a way that is funny and can easily be concluded that its a joke. Overall I thought both shows were pretty funny.

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  7. ---Gender roles:
    I think with how society has changed it's views on marriages, split homes, and etc. The gender roles have been switched, flipped and turned around. Some for the better and some for the worse. Better: women and men are more equal to eachother now, as in, men AND women work all day, neither person has more responsiblities for the family. now a days men are able to stay home with the children and not be looked at in a demeaning way. Worse: but along with this equality comes mistrust. Men and women are cheating, lying and divorcing and it is accepted now also.

    ---How women are treated:
    Women are treated differently based on their looks, status, and how they portrey themselves as a person. Prettier women are treated as goddesses practically, they are sought after constantly and get whatever they want usually. Woman that are not very pretty do not get the same treatment. Women who are married are look over and almost forgotten about (in good ways and bad). Women who act availible do not get the attention of males as much because they dont like it when there isnt a chase but girls who give in to whatever it is when wasnt they get zero respect whehter it be sex or love they give up too soon.

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  8. In the shows i saw that the men were more in the women spot and visa versa. The men were portayed always wanting sex, lyers and irrashible. While women were usually in the power position, strong, do the talking, want a deep relationship. To where the society roles are the opposite. Women are treated in sitcoms as the ruler while society is the other way. Its weird how the roles switched making the funny. The marriage of the couples are usually where the wife never trusts the man or is disgraced by them. The are not that different from sitcoms and today, more women are becoming the primaily source of income, more and more dads stay at the house raising children than 30 years ago. When mothers stayed at the house and doing everything and men have the job and wear the pants. Today women are the voice of families.

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  9. the shows were halarious to me because its taking something that can easily be cleared up by telling the truth,instead the men go through crazy-ass antics just to cover up their lie

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  10. Through watching "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "King of Queens" you notice that certain types of women are treated differently. Wives, girlfriends, etc are almost frightened by the men in their lives when they are mad or upset. The men will lie, cover up, anything to keep them from finding out what they are lying about. Women that men are not in a realationship with and that they find attractive are almost worshiped. Men and women in relationships bicker where as men who are trying to get a woman agree with or do anything that the women say.

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  11. The hostilitly between partners in Everybody Loves Ramond I think is really funny. It is really what makes the show what it is but i wouldnt want that in my life. It is funny to me because it isnt real but being around that in real life is awkward unless it is a joke. I always view any television show as being fake. Even if it is a reality show I still dont consider it real life so the fact that this is scripted makes it even harder for me to accept as the way life should be. It really is just taking things that may happen and blowing them out of proportion.

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  12. In King of Queens people are funny for several reasons like how Doug and Carrie lie to each other constantly and how each sooner or later find out in the long run. Also how they keep each other apart.
    In Everybody Loves Raymond people are hilarious how the couples act around each other like Ray and Debra are constantly fighting and keep switching peoples sides on matters, so are how Ray and Robert act between each other how Robert was basically pushed to the side during their childhood.

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  13. I think that women are treated like crap on tv to men but they are the ones who put up with it. i think that women need to be treated evenly. I think that every body loves raymond is funny because they have been together for so long that it really doesnt bother them but then again it does cause they are still married.

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  14. American sit-coms portray men and women very differently. In a marriage men lie to the women to get sex. Like wise the women are easily diceived. In both of the sit-coms we watched the women were in control of the relationship, punishing the men when needed. In "The King of Queens" it portrayed the man as constantly trying to get sex as fast as he could. The girlfriend however, is waiting and more worried about the relationship as a whole. I thought both of these shows were funny because each singled out the thought process of men. In each show the men were acting like the children and their wife/girlfriend was the parent.

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  15. The sitcom show men and women married but dont really love each other. They fight all the time which is made into a joke on the show. I would hope people dont fight like this in real life. So that aspect of the sitcoms are not seen in real life. Most of the other elements are true. Such as some men being shy around pretty women or when men dont cook or clean.

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  16. men treat women poorly. they lie and have their ways to "jump around the bush" as far as the truth. some men are not but for the most part they are. women are looked at as a sex symbol and men strive to talk and make more "so called friends" with as many girls as they can. even in a marriage it seems they can never be truthful. raymond was obviously not truthful to his wife, why? because he didnt want to tell her what was really happeninig about the girls and everything. im not saying women are perfect but they dont have a problem with telling the truth either. i think its just society and how relationships really exist in this world. its sad is what it is and i dont understand it. there is no perfect relationship, each one has flaws. i think its funny when i see something like this happen for instance on "everybody loves raymond" because men think they are sneaky when girls can easily take clues and are smart enough to figure it out on their own and put two and two together. i think some people think marraige is portrayed as like your on lockdown and cant escape the "terrible world" that comes with marraige so you have to lie or cheat etc. i dont agree with any of it, i beleive if you want to be with someone or marry someone you should only have eyes for them. trust is everything in a relationship in the end.

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  18. Slama: I agree with you; even though the show is not a parody, the concepts used concerning the men are made fun of, almost like a satire. The men are the objects of the show, the main characters. It shows their dominacy, but it also shows their flaws in their thinking.

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  19. Sit-coms are an exagerrated example of marriges and the way couples live and get along. Most couples probably have their arguements and problems but none really as blatant and ironic as seen on tv. These shows were very funny to me because it portrays marrige as tying you down and men doin what ever they can to do what they want and how they avoid women. I think men and women have different thoughts on marriage and there shows do a good job showing it.

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  20. I agree with Tuttle22. What makes those shows funny is that it isn't real, it blows things out of proportion and shows the flaws in something such as marriage.

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  21. Men and women are portrayed differently in american sit coms. Men are portrayed as liars,smooth talkers, lazy and obessed with sex. Women are portrayed as the responsible one, the care taker and obessed with the relationship. I do belive that these shows go along with how men and women act and think in real life somewhat.The shows might exgerrate a little about how the characters act or think but I think they are on the right track. The shows are funny because people can relate there life with these shows and laugh at themselves because they see thereselves as one of the characters. The men think they are loocked to the marriage and they can't do anything right to please there wife. The women want the relationship to work and they want to be happy.

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  22. thats very true that in the show the me lied about anythin to get what they want. and the problem could be solved by telling the truth in the begining

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  23. Those shows were funny to me and was all about the truths. I heard a sentence about the relationship: the men always want to be the first, but the women want to be the last. In my country, men really care about his wife was a virgin or not. I think men more care about women's appearences, but women want to hear more sweet words. However, the nature is all same. I belive no boby wants to live without out regards and attentions.

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